You see? A conversation does not need to be pretty. With my bad English, this one was not. But I think you, Daly, learned things about me and me, Bo, has learned things about you.Daly wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:20 pmBo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:02 pmI do see that this was supposed to not be a "dick measuring contest" (this is a nice phrase. I must learn to add it to my English speaking). But, that is what it has become. More of the talk has been surrounding the "man child" (another phrase I enjoy) behavior of Damacus and dw then what was your first point you spoke.Seyda wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:40 amAs kind as the words may be, I feel like it needs to be reiterated a bit more clearly that this not about a dick measuring contest between Dama and dw, nor is it about anything else except what was made clear in the initial posting.
People can continue to ignore it as much as it benefits them to do, but it does not change what is there.
This is not bad guy speak. This is wise guy speak. You speak truth.Daly wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:49 am
I'll be the bad guy. I don't think this guy lives in reality, or was just coached wrong. Dw and Damacus have known each other a long while. Worked together. Their history and anger toward one another isn't something a pretty conversation will change. Though your intentions are nice, they are not realistic. These hens will be clucking with or without Damacus and dw being at each others throats. This city is one giant gossip column and no one ever shuts up. If it's not Damacus and darkwolf, it will be someone else who trashes someone all day every day. No changing that.
All you can hope for is to put yourself in a position where when someone trashes you, it dont matter anymore cause you can destroy everything they love just by whispering an order to someone else. Knowing more than you say benefits you more than knowing nothing and speaking pretty.
Good luck in your future, fledge.
As I spoke, it is my thought that men like dw and Damacus should not be feeding the hens. They should be feeding the doves or the vultures.
The conversation does not need to be pretty. Conversations are not always pretty. But at end of conversation maybe there can be peace even if that peace is no longer acknowledging the existence of the other. If not for dw and Damacus, then for the community. This would be feeding the doves.
But as I spoke of doves, I also spoke of vultures, the part you and Jauk leave out. If conversation is not something they can do, then let them do war. Among their families, or just between the two of them. Set the terms of what the winner receives, and let Odin's hand guide the righteous to victory. This would be feeding the vultures.
Men weak of mind and body feed the hens. Men strong of mind and body feed the doves and the vultures.
I do not need to know the history of dw and Damacus, or who they are, to know that.
This is my thought.
Tack sa mycket for the luck.
It's not a conversation that's needed then. The issue is hatred guided plot schemes. Lies being spread, baseless accusations, Julia plotting to take down Cerberus with Seydas help under darkwolf's command, after a failed attempt to get the entire city to take Damacus down with virgo isnt helping anything. Its not the insults that keeps peace from happening. It's the plotting behind the curtains.
Now, we are all guilty of plotting. War is war. Blood will be shed. But don't bite off more than you can eat if you dont have the stomach for it. Dont go to everyone in the city and ask if they want to attack your enemies because you fucked up. Dont ghost people when you're under attack. Dont go pink because you did something stupid and people who are about that life came to whoop that ass.
Dont claim fledgelings are innocent if you intend to build them up and use them in a war in the future. If you cant be real with yourself then you wont ever be able to get passed all the hatred burning in your heart. These are lessons that arent taught anymore today. Because it's easier to victimize someone than it is to admit you fucked up.
I personally hope all of HoP burns bright. They fucked up. No matter how loud the crying gets that's the one thing that wont be forgotten in all of this.
Spying, plotting, acts of war. So did everyone else start this, or was it Julia the day she said Damacus needs to die. And by saying Damacus needs to die, so does Ferrymen. So does House of Silence. So does everyone that worked hard on building such a safe place for our lineages to grow.
It sounds to me that in the big view of things, we are of the same thought. It is small things that we do not have similar thoughts. Through more conversation, we even maybe hear the same things on smaller problems.
Seyda, I am sorry for giving more thoughts not on the topic that was your original want. I will now stop.
Lycka till to everyone involved.