PSA re: doncey & co.

[doncey]

You have absolutely no idea what I am even referring to. Kindly piss off.

[Brom]

And you refuse to elaborate. Despite the forum and several chances to do so. A shame really.

[Vanitas]

You have absolutely no idea what I am even referring to. Kindly piss off.

Only pointing out that you're circling the drain and that this isn't helping you at all. You are speaking to the Commander in a way that you have already apologised for.

If you're not going to listen to Brom, perhaps you will listen to the Commander. If you will not listen to your ex-wife and someone who I believe is your friend, who you care for so deeply (see: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3387), then perhaps you will listen to me. Someone who isn't hitting you. Not by choice, but because of a very specific curse.

Would if I could knock some sense into you, sir. Alas.

You're doing it again. Exactly the same thing. Sir. Sir! Wake up.

[Azeara]

Okay, Lets clear the air here. I didn't rage quite, I walked the fuck out. You and your family wanted the clan out of the way, I gave you what you wanted, and the second I hit the streets I was still under attack, still and again by an added few I might add. Is this really because I went after you first Vex? Are you really that upset that the fact you were involved all along and was able to claim innocence and now, in your mind, what, I took that from you? You were not able to destroy the clan without having to throw a single holy water, you finally got pulled into battle and all I keep hearing is "How dear I attack Vex"

There was no way I was going to allow you to skate scot-free from this. Guilty by association Vex. Guilty by your actions. Guilty because not everybody is as stupid as you think.

Now, go ahead and rage. I know how this goes. It's doncey's fault the clan failed, doncey was the one that was a shit leader and gave up one everything. doncey was the one that accused little ole me of things I am completely innocent of.. Bats eyelashes to the public Give me a break.

Rage quitting by any other name would smell just as cringe. You rage quit homie. You didn't get the standing ovation for your shit idea you wanted, and rage quit. So now you have turned to lying about Vex. How long do we have to wait before you rage quit doing that?

[Vex]

Okay, Lets clear the air here.

Let's.

You and your family wanted the clan out of the way,

50/50 on this one. My family wanted Ferry obliterated, that is correct. I did not. Much like Alex chose her path differently than yours and the rest of your family, I am not the sum of my family's beliefs. I am my own person.

I gave you what you wanted, and the second I hit the streets I was still under attack, still and again by an added few I might add. Is this really because I went after you first Vex?

You misunderstand. It wasn't about the vial. After I stepped down, you had every opportunity to ask for clarification or just speak to me. You either spoke to no one or you spoke to Liski - either way, you ended up jumping to some very wrong conclusions based on speculation. Then, you decided to attack my intentions and my character verbally, which did hurt my feelings because I did see you as a brother. Now, unfortunately (for you) Oberon cares about me and notices when I'm sad, so I eventually informed him I'd stepped down from my position on the Stygian Council.

That's about the point you got hit more. Throwing an actual vial at me was largely irrelevant. I just wouldn't have joined in quite so soon.

There was no way I was going to allow you to skate scot-free from this. Guilty by association Vex. Guilty by your actions. Guilty because not everybody is as stupid as you think.

Now, go ahead and rage. I know how this goes. It's doncey's fault the clan failed, doncey was the one that was a shit leader and gave up one everything. doncey was the one that accused little ole me of things I am completely innocent of.. Bats eyelashes to the public Give me a break.

Never have I pointed blame at you. It wasn't your fault and neither was it mine. It wasn't Liski or Hells or any other one force. It was simply time, and deep down, you know this because we discussed closing it at least a few times. Rightfully, Ferrymen should have closed its doors 3 years ago, but we tried to revive it. I wanted very badly for that to succeed, but it didn't. And that's okay. CPR doesn't always work; even when it does keep the air flowing for a while, it's not without its toll. We tried to breathe life back into something that should have passed on years ago, and we snarled ourselves in her broken ribs. For that, I hold no rage - only sadness.

Perhaps this is what you don't understand: it should not have fallen to me to close Ferrymen, but it did. And I did what had to be done in the best way I could. You need not allow anything, I can carry the weight of this on my own. But it's not guilt: it's duty.

[ophelia]

Okay, Lets clear the air here. I didn't rage quite, I walked the fuck out. You and your family wanted the clan out of the way, I gave you what you wanted, and the second I hit the streets I was still under attack, still and again by an added few I might add. Is this really because I went after you first Vex? Are you really that upset that the fact you were involved all along and was able to claim innocence and now, in your mind, what, I took that from you? You were not able to destroy the clan without having to throw a single holy water, you finally got pulled into battle and all I keep hearing is "How dear I attack Vex"

There was no way I was going to allow you to skate scot-free from this. Guilty by association Vex. Guilty by your actions. Guilty because not everybody is as stupid as you think.

Now, go ahead and rage. I know how this goes. It's doncey's fault the clan failed, doncey was the one that was a shit leader and gave up one everything. doncey was the one that accused little ole me of things I am completely innocent of.. Bats eyelashes to the public Give me a break.

The events that led up to your promotion and subsequently the mock promotion of Vex, compounded with months and months long nothingness with the lack of initiative on both leadership and clan itself was a huge factor in clan shenanigans or lack thereof. You don't have to carry that burden alone bud, not sure why you keep trying unless you're looking for a cross to nail yourself on or whatever it is men with fragile egos do these days.

Having said that:

You rage quit. Plain and simple. A discussion wasn’t going the way you wanted it to go, you dropped all pretense of civility, showed that you never intended to work cooperatively with Vex in a positive direction for THE CLAN AND PEOPLE YOU WERE CHARGED WITH LEADING and instead, you swung around and started having a toddler sized meltdown. **VEX IS THE BRAINWORM EATING YOUR BRAIN YOU HAVE ALL DRUNK FROM THE POISON WELL SHAME SHAME SHAME**

In front of THE CLAN AND PEOPLE YOU WERE CHARGED WITH TAKING CARE OF.

When you were done shitting all over everyone, you promptly said you were leaving and then suggested that anyone related to you do the same. Rage quitting at its finest.

I do thank you though for proving what I said to you was, in fact, so accurate it’s almost magical.

[Tarchetti]

Ah, the social stage—a place where reputations are built, destroyed, and, in some cases, tripped over repeatedly for all to see.

There’s a certain art to debate, to defending one’s stance with poise and conviction. Which seems lacking here...

At what point does one realize that silence may be the more dignified route? That a tarnished reputation is better left unpolished than further scuffed by one’s own reckless hands?

It’s a fascinating, albeit tragic, reminder that words, wielded poorly, are a far greater enemy than silence. Perhaps, in the end, the city isn’t the greatest opponent. It's of the lone wolf barking angrily. I thought you had a more eloquent form of speech than this Doncey.

I suppose this is better than having your own friends and family tarnish one's reputation with their lies and assumptions.

[doncey]

Every source chart I study comes back to one thing, Vex's feelings. I was backed into a corner after being completely silent for the first few days of this, I was forced to respond with action in the city, I have done that. I was forced to defend myself here, so I have spoken. Will I do an interview with Brom after he has been attack both verbally and physically, no.

There really is nothing left to say. I have my version of the events but it is a futile attempt to try and explain anything here. It's like having your story blasted on the wrong news network. There are no words I can speak that will sway the minds that have so many voices whispering in their ears. The minds of those that would need to be changed for anything to change including optics that Vex is always so worried about.

Have I lashed out? Yep, one hundred percent. And I will not apologize for that. Have a good day, enjoy the bashing.

[Seyda]

A few things. One, you were not forced to do the things you did that has led to you being backed into a corner. Two, you were not forced into deciding to defend yourself by insulting everyone and presenting a version of events that does not match the evidence. Three, you were not forced into deciding that your strategy was to hold back your house and pretend to be an innocent lone wolf victim. Four, you were not forced to bring a proverbial knife into a gun fight in a pathetic attempt to “sway minds” when frankly, you do not have the intelligence required to change anyone’s stance at all when the evidence is crystal clear.

You attempted to convince people that you’re an innocent solo victim. That failed.

You then attempted to convince people that anyone speaking out against you is jealous, or a slut, or unliked, or uninformed. That failed.

Now you’re a victim of Vex’s feelings. This is also failing because Vex has evidence. You have your fake version that runs contrary. Vex and I didn’t fuck with each other for YEARS, yet I am firmly on his side in this. Instead of taking a step back and reflecting on WHY that is, you’ll just keep trying to push a narrative that all of us are stupid and you’re brilliant. Which is the saddest part because my side are not full of people who withhold education, training, and support to keep people dumber than us so they can be manipulated. That’s your MO.

[doncey]

Failed, Failed, Failed... You forgot Gaslighting, Seyda.