Conflict Coverage: Damacus VS The Void UPDATE
- ladypeacek
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I would say that it would be poor leadership to treat any attack as less than a war effort. Doing so means you assume that more will not arrive, or things will not change drastically and coming from years when a group has gone from 1 hitter to 20+ overnight, it's not a stretch. Considering how many have threatened or at the very least wished Damacus zeroed over the years- how can you be certain that half the city won't hop on this bandwagon just because they can? I wouldn't hedge my bets, if it were me. I've seen it happen too many times, but that may just be the jaded ex-clan leader in me.
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Interesting that you say I was shadowed because I moved around last eveming and am still not at full energy or shadowed. When were these sights taken because I have been out of shadows since 7pm [pacific] when I began to move.
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- Daly
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ladypeacek wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:28 amI would say that it would be poor leadership to treat any attack as less than a war effort. Doing so means you assume that more will not arrive, or things will not change drastically and coming from years when a group has gone from 1 hitter to 20+ overnight, it's not a stretch. Considering how many have threatened or at the very least wished Damacus zeroed over the years- how can you be certain that half the city won't hop on this bandwagon just because they can? I wouldn't hedge my bets, if it were me. I've seen it happen too many times, but that may just be the jaded ex-clan leader in me.
Actually, poor leadership would involve wasting coins on mercenary efforts. If it were a war effort, more than just Damacus would be getting attacked. That's just common sense. I'm genuinely sad that I had to explain that to you.
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Did you know that seven uv grenades can cause a two thousand plus blood loss to a thirty-three thousand pint vampire? I didn't! I have also learned that they sting but I still think the burn of holy water is a more unpleasant feeling.ladypeacek wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:12 amAlso, wasn't it just a day before they were uv bombing Kains, implying he was in shadows at the time, as well?
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- KainsSon
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I actually wasn't shadowed then, which was funnier. But credit where due, when taking into account me resisting scrolls like people in this city resist logic, it was the most efficient method considering my blood count and the hitters they had on hand.
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- ladypeacek
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Daly wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:45 amladypeacek wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:28 amI would say that it would be poor leadership to treat any attack as less than a war effort. Doing so means you assume that more will not arrive, or things will not change drastically and coming from years when a group has gone from 1 hitter to 20+ overnight, it's not a stretch. Considering how many have threatened or at the very least wished Damacus zeroed over the years- how can you be certain that half the city won't hop on this bandwagon just because they can? I wouldn't hedge my bets, if it were me. I've seen it happen too many times, but that may just be the jaded ex-clan leader in me.
Actually, poor leadership would involve wasting coins on mercenary efforts. If it were a war effort, more than just Damacus would be getting attacked. That's just common sense. I'm genuinely sad that I had to explain that to you.
You have never been an actual leader, with more than 40+ people wanting to defend a loved one from a splinter, and telling them it's a waste of COIN to do so. Being a leader, isn't all about the coin- sometimes, Daly, it's about giving an actual fuck about the people. I'd waste every single dime I had to make someone's job miserable and long and boring and drawn out, if it meant letting the person I love, know I got their back at all costs. After you've actually led something more than your big plots and schemes into fading away when you inevitably get bored- talk to me then.
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Besides the fact that I would rather do business as quickly as possible, I don't see the problem either way. These philosophical questions have no concrete answers, just various hues along a color spectrum.
Love what you do for a living and you'll never work a day in your life. Whether people fight back or not, I'm going to bleed and battle with a wide smile.
Love what you do for a living and you'll never work a day in your life. Whether people fight back or not, I'm going to bleed and battle with a wide smile.
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You're absolutely correct peacek I've never been a leader of 40+ people but I know one thing. If I were I wouldn't be worried about Merc camps coming for my blood. I wouldn't allow my people to fight my battles for me, ever, because there is a bigger picture here and losing some blood ain't the end of the world. You can get angry with me all you want for pointing out the flaws in your ways, but at the end of the day, poor leadership results in wasting resources. No one is making my job miserable, I've been laughing this entire time. At poor leadership, angry people on a news forum who can't handle difference in opinions, and most importantly, the waste of resources. Because all of that is funny to me. So I guess I owe you a thank you.ladypeacek wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:19 amDaly wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:45 amladypeacek wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:28 amI would say that it would be poor leadership to treat any attack as less than a war effort. Doing so means you assume that more will not arrive, or things will not change drastically and coming from years when a group has gone from 1 hitter to 20+ overnight, it's not a stretch. Considering how many have threatened or at the very least wished Damacus zeroed over the years- how can you be certain that half the city won't hop on this bandwagon just because they can? I wouldn't hedge my bets, if it were me. I've seen it happen too many times, but that may just be the jaded ex-clan leader in me.
Actually, poor leadership would involve wasting coins on mercenary efforts. If it were a war effort, more than just Damacus would be getting attacked. That's just common sense. I'm genuinely sad that I had to explain that to you.
You have never been an actual leader, with more than 40+ people wanting to defend a loved one from a splinter, and telling them it's a waste of COIN to do so. Being a leader, isn't all about the coin- sometimes, Daly, it's about giving an actual fuck about the people. I'd waste every single dime I had to make someone's job miserable and long and boring and drawn out, if it meant letting the person I love, know I got their back at all costs. After you've actually led something more than your big plots and schemes into fading away when you inevitably get bored- talk to me then.
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May our dead rest in peace.
- ladypeacek
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I'm not angry at you at all for disagreeing with me- I'm simply pointing out that YOUR way is not the RIGHT way or the ONLY way, and while neither is mine, I at least have credible experience and background to speak upon.
I think it's absolutely fair that if you are gonna profit on the death of someone I love, that it makes perfect sense to fight back.
See, I know it's a difference of opinion- you are the only one running around telling me I am wrong and flawed for not thinking like you, sir. Is you, that doesn't want to hear someone say something other than what you want to hear.
I will say- I felt the same as you once. When I was leading Ferry, and got hit, ANYTIME I got hit, which was often, because splinter's heart and live fighting love, I never let anyone defend me. I would hold back my clan and tell them, it's just blood, I don't care until finally, someone said to me- "You make me feel like I am useless, like I don't have a reason to be here. We WANT to defend you. We WANT to support you. We WANT to fight too. We trained for this. We work hard for this." It was then, that I realized, it's not MY choice. It's not about ME. It was about a group of people that were together for a reason, because they shared the same values and beliefs and who was I to tell them what they could and could not fight for?
You love to fight Daly. You always have. I've always loved watching you do so too. Why can't you grasp the concept, that others may enjoy it just as much and resources are nothing in comparison to the fun, and to the bond building experience of fighting together?
I think it's absolutely fair that if you are gonna profit on the death of someone I love, that it makes perfect sense to fight back.
See, I know it's a difference of opinion- you are the only one running around telling me I am wrong and flawed for not thinking like you, sir. Is you, that doesn't want to hear someone say something other than what you want to hear.
I will say- I felt the same as you once. When I was leading Ferry, and got hit, ANYTIME I got hit, which was often, because splinter's heart and live fighting love, I never let anyone defend me. I would hold back my clan and tell them, it's just blood, I don't care until finally, someone said to me- "You make me feel like I am useless, like I don't have a reason to be here. We WANT to defend you. We WANT to support you. We WANT to fight too. We trained for this. We work hard for this." It was then, that I realized, it's not MY choice. It's not about ME. It was about a group of people that were together for a reason, because they shared the same values and beliefs and who was I to tell them what they could and could not fight for?
You love to fight Daly. You always have. I've always loved watching you do so too. Why can't you grasp the concept, that others may enjoy it just as much and resources are nothing in comparison to the fun, and to the bond building experience of fighting together?