Conflict Coverage: Agrippa vs din Kolesi
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:18 am
Late on the 8th of January, 2018, the mercenary group The Void[1] completed its months-long contract[2][3] on Agrippa lineage leaders Damacus and ophelia. Vials and coin were exchanged, but the end of the contract was the beginning of a broiling conflict that has thus far claimed three zeroings in the days following.
JANUARY 8TH
Following the completion of the contract against Damacus and ophelia, an attempt at ceasefire was negotiated between Agrippa leaders, Damacus and ophelia, and din Kolesi leaders, CrimsonClover and Michiru. According to Damacus, this talk was because he believed Crimson and Michiru are “responsible for the people you both [CrimsonClover and Michiru] claim to lead as a lineage and a bloodline … Nor does [The Void’s] operation negate the fact that [din Kolesi] are hitting myself and my partner.”
In response, CrimsonClover and Michiru argued that there was a separation between lineage and clan and that the inclusion of Daly and Narcisssa in Void contracts had nothing to do with din Kolesi. “What the Void does with its members is none of my business,” stated Crimson. “Just as if any of my lineage were clanned, what the clan does is none of my business. I do not deny that you have a contract out on you. At this point the whole city knows of it. I am not responsible for said contract however.”
After arguing and threats back and forth, terms were finally brought forth on Damacus’ end. Those terms are as follows:
“Crimson will take the stake. You can deliver that if you like, and Daly, and all the rest, Pulse and Kali will discontinue … Daly and the rest will be spared … And if any further hostilities even barely resume against my people -- a fucking pointed remark -- I will have this talk with you all over.”
The terms were not accepted, and thus the attacks continued. When I reached out to Damacus to ask him specifically why he attacked din Kolesi, in his own words, he said:
“The "contract" was nothing more than an excuse for they and their people to come at us. 3/4ths of the attacks were from the same people and their lackeys. Not hard to imagine why that might be. Beyond that, I'm aware on a factual basis what they've been up to behind the scenes including trying to isolate me from my allies, and down right manipulation/spying ... As for the Void. Saying you're part of it doesn't grant you some diplomatic immunity. I don't recall ever signing onto that policy and it's not one of my own. I believe that it's an attempt like Tantibus was to pull in hitters for people who have otherwise had trouble getting more on their own.”
JANUARY 9-11TH
During this two-day stretch, either side of the attack landed various hits. Attacks began with Agrippa hitting in two waves, one hitting CrimsonClover and the other landing grenades at Michiru after scrolling her out of the home of her sire, Elizabeth. The two groups traded weapons over this two day period before ending at a standstill on the 11th. By this time, Agrippa had 14 total hitters versus 6 hitting for din Kolesi. The current BP and total BP loss since the 9th is included below[4].
JANUARY 12TH
While no notable attacks happened on the 12th, the day ended with a standstill on both sides and an explosive argument between Damacus and Daly in the main room of our local tavern. During the entirety of this argument, Damacus was Lost in Shadows, and claimed that Daly remained unhittable, despite Daly’s protests to the contrary. Daly was quoted saying to Damacus:
“I'm not begging you for shit, man. You think you have a reason to attack us because of what, two members of din Kolesi are a part of The Void and that means there was never a contract taken out on you, even though I got coins telling me differently. You got nothing, or else you'd say it. And you won't say it because I can promise you, I have proof behind my words. I've moved, dumbass. You're not collecting. Aint my problem you don't pay good enough attention before you run your mouth. So bring it on.”
The night ended with Batrisha joining the fight, landing a HW on Daly, and bringing him from 1026 to 962 pints, where he started the current day of the conflict.
JANUARY 13TH
Despite the relative stalemate since the 11th, January 13th marked an uptick in activity on both fronts when Agrippa succeeded in zeroing first CrimsonClover, then Pulse, and ended the night with the zeroing of Daly. The stakes of both Crimson and Daly were taken by Michiru and Josephine respectively[6], sparking debate about the efficacy of taking the zero from Agrippa.
“It is a tradition that seems to be lost. It was not given to me by Agrippa. I claimed it from them. Staking a loved one is often a moment of caring intimacy between blood,” said Michiru.
I reached out to several people involved to get their takes on the events at hand. When asked if the attacks would stop with the zeroing of Crimson and Daly, both Michiru and Damacus had similar thoughts. Both declined to comment on future events and have opted to wait for things to unfold naturally, based on the opposition’s movements. Damacus declined additional comments about this conflict, not wanting to put all his cards out on the table. Michiru, however, had much to say. This is a copy of her final statements in full:
FINAL THOUGHTS
As it stands, Agrippa has three zeroes underneath their belt, despite comparable bloodloss on both sides. Both factions seem convinced that their reactions during this conflict have been both morally sound and proportionate. Both have long-standing histories and traditions backing up their beliefs. Whether this conflict continues now that one of the leaders of din Kolesi has been zeroed has yet to be seen. More updates will be added as this story unfolds.
UPDATE #1: JAN. 19
At the time of this writing, Agrippa has claimed another zero on the din Kolesi side. On Jan. 17, 2018, Narcisssa[7] was zeroed by Agrippa, with the final stake going to Anima. Agrippa has not changed their earlier tactics of attacking only those who landed vials on them after the end of The Void contract, leaving only Michiru and Kali left to be zeroed.
Michiru is down to 1013 BP with Kali sitting at 1947, both remaining Out of Shadows and swinging. Between them and Narcisssa, before she fell, they managed to bring Damacus down to 4012 pints and ophelia at 9666 pints. Though many other Agrippa have bled (with Lannair Cuan at the lead so far behind Agrippa leadership, losing 4718 total pints since the 8th), none are anywhere near zeroing range and Michiru has made sure that no new members of din Kolesi hop into the fight now that it is on its last leg.
UPDATE #2: JAN. 21
Late on January 19th, heading into the early morning of the 20th, both Michiru[8] and Kali [9] were zeroed by Agrippa. Kali's stake was taken by Reyna, her partner and a former member of Agrippa, who was not involved in the conflict, in much the same way that din Kolesi took the stakes of Daly and CrimsonClover. ophelia staked Michiru, and her body was collected by Michiru's childe, Erzsbet V. According to claims in Ab Antiquo's own "What Are You Thinking?" thread[10], Michiru attempted a few hits against Agrippa as they attacked her[11], though accidentally used inappropriate weapons such as stakes against high-BP vampires.
When asked about the possibility of any further attacks on the rest of the din Kolesi lineage, Damacus merely stated, "Do I seem like a person who would kill the wolves and then the cubs?" suggesting that with the final zeroing of the 6 original combatants, the conflict is (for now) laid to rest.
REFERENCES:
[1] Introducing: The Void
[2] Conflict Coverage: Damacus VS The Void
[3] Conflict Coverage: Damacus VS The Void UPDATE
[4] Many thanks to Lilou and Vex for compiling this list.
[5] While Pulse and Kali are not considered din Kolesi, they were attacked in concert with them and thus included, and according to Michiru: “They did hit [with] the dK side.”
[6] See Jan. 14-A correction.
[7] Narcisssa Obituary
[8] Michiru Obituary
[9] Kali Obituary
[10] What Are You Thinking? Page 78
[11] See Jan. 22 correction.
CORRECTIONS
Jan. 14 2018-A -- Josephine claimed the stake by Daly, not Michiru, as previously stated.
Jan. 14 2018-B -- Table reorganized to better distinguish between actual din Kolesi members and their allies. Michiru quote in [5] was clarified.
Jan 22. 2018 -- Changed wording of sentence to better reflect accuracy.
JANUARY 8TH
Following the completion of the contract against Damacus and ophelia, an attempt at ceasefire was negotiated between Agrippa leaders, Damacus and ophelia, and din Kolesi leaders, CrimsonClover and Michiru. According to Damacus, this talk was because he believed Crimson and Michiru are “responsible for the people you both [CrimsonClover and Michiru] claim to lead as a lineage and a bloodline … Nor does [The Void’s] operation negate the fact that [din Kolesi] are hitting myself and my partner.”
In response, CrimsonClover and Michiru argued that there was a separation between lineage and clan and that the inclusion of Daly and Narcisssa in Void contracts had nothing to do with din Kolesi. “What the Void does with its members is none of my business,” stated Crimson. “Just as if any of my lineage were clanned, what the clan does is none of my business. I do not deny that you have a contract out on you. At this point the whole city knows of it. I am not responsible for said contract however.”
After arguing and threats back and forth, terms were finally brought forth on Damacus’ end. Those terms are as follows:
“Crimson will take the stake. You can deliver that if you like, and Daly, and all the rest, Pulse and Kali will discontinue … Daly and the rest will be spared … And if any further hostilities even barely resume against my people -- a fucking pointed remark -- I will have this talk with you all over.”
The terms were not accepted, and thus the attacks continued. When I reached out to Damacus to ask him specifically why he attacked din Kolesi, in his own words, he said:
“The "contract" was nothing more than an excuse for they and their people to come at us. 3/4ths of the attacks were from the same people and their lackeys. Not hard to imagine why that might be. Beyond that, I'm aware on a factual basis what they've been up to behind the scenes including trying to isolate me from my allies, and down right manipulation/spying ... As for the Void. Saying you're part of it doesn't grant you some diplomatic immunity. I don't recall ever signing onto that policy and it's not one of my own. I believe that it's an attempt like Tantibus was to pull in hitters for people who have otherwise had trouble getting more on their own.”
JANUARY 9-11TH
During this two-day stretch, either side of the attack landed various hits. Attacks began with Agrippa hitting in two waves, one hitting CrimsonClover and the other landing grenades at Michiru after scrolling her out of the home of her sire, Elizabeth. The two groups traded weapons over this two day period before ending at a standstill on the 11th. By this time, Agrippa had 14 total hitters versus 6 hitting for din Kolesi. The current BP and total BP loss since the 9th is included below[4].
- AGRIPPA - | - DIN KOLESI[5] - |
| Anima CURRENT: 5830 - LOSS: 731 Archontohs CURRENT: 31589 - LOSS: 0 Batrisha CURRENT: 43915 - LOSS: 0 Damacus CURRENT: 5999 - LOSS: 4694 Dilectus CURRENT: 20627 - LOSS: 0 Jauk CURRENT: 13004 - LOSS: 0 Lannair Cuan CURRENT: 11023 - LOSS: 3180 Malice CURRENT: 22051 - LOSS: 2022 melanctha CURRENT: 21816 - LOSS: 0 Moon Girl CURRENT: 16478 - LOSS: 0 Nemesis CURRENT: 70061 - LOSS: 0 ophelia CURRENT: 13226 - LOSS: 4571 xxsacrificexx CURRENT: 19119 - LOSS: 0 |
CrimsonClover CURRENT: 38 - LOSS: 3754 Daly CURRENT: 0 - LOSS: 3360 Michiru CURRENT: 11166 - LOSS: 6908 Narcisssa CURRENT: 3909 - LOSS: 10777 THE VOID Pulse CURRENT: 25 - LOSS: 3981 Kali CURRENT: 6343 - LOSS: 2272 |
JANUARY 12TH
While no notable attacks happened on the 12th, the day ended with a standstill on both sides and an explosive argument between Damacus and Daly in the main room of our local tavern. During the entirety of this argument, Damacus was Lost in Shadows, and claimed that Daly remained unhittable, despite Daly’s protests to the contrary. Daly was quoted saying to Damacus:
“I'm not begging you for shit, man. You think you have a reason to attack us because of what, two members of din Kolesi are a part of The Void and that means there was never a contract taken out on you, even though I got coins telling me differently. You got nothing, or else you'd say it. And you won't say it because I can promise you, I have proof behind my words. I've moved, dumbass. You're not collecting. Aint my problem you don't pay good enough attention before you run your mouth. So bring it on.”
The night ended with Batrisha joining the fight, landing a HW on Daly, and bringing him from 1026 to 962 pints, where he started the current day of the conflict.
JANUARY 13TH
Despite the relative stalemate since the 11th, January 13th marked an uptick in activity on both fronts when Agrippa succeeded in zeroing first CrimsonClover, then Pulse, and ended the night with the zeroing of Daly. The stakes of both Crimson and Daly were taken by Michiru and Josephine respectively[6], sparking debate about the efficacy of taking the zero from Agrippa.
“It is a tradition that seems to be lost. It was not given to me by Agrippa. I claimed it from them. Staking a loved one is often a moment of caring intimacy between blood,” said Michiru.
I reached out to several people involved to get their takes on the events at hand. When asked if the attacks would stop with the zeroing of Crimson and Daly, both Michiru and Damacus had similar thoughts. Both declined to comment on future events and have opted to wait for things to unfold naturally, based on the opposition’s movements. Damacus declined additional comments about this conflict, not wanting to put all his cards out on the table. Michiru, however, had much to say. This is a copy of her final statements in full:
Michiru wrote:I feel that all of this was designed, and I do say designed, by Damacus to accomplish at least one of three things:
Number 1: He wants to kill us. He has been unable to show power over us, because we just truly aren’t impressed with him, and so the only option is to aimlessly kill. So be it. It’s just blood.
Number 2: He would have been content with less killing and more terms by which to stroke his ego, this is an aspect of attempting to break an individual and a way by which to give an oppressor power over them. This is something that we would not allow.
Number 3: He has a desire to ruin The Void. It is as blatant as his statement on “not signing off” on it. This is an attempt at invalidation. He wanted the hits called off. This would mean going to Kain, to get The Void to stop. This is another aspect of control. He is unable to control The Void so he must do the only thing he can- attempt to destroy it.
The only thing he will get, is taking our blood, which is trivial and not a factor that places one in power. We will not bend to his oppressive will. In that way we would be giving him control over us. din Kolesi will -never- and I do repeat -never- compromise a city faction, clan, or group.
We need not be apart of it, or even believe in its values to believe that should exist. We need not enjoy it, or even use it, to accept that it does belong here. It brings diversity. It brings a certain person to its doors, it reels them in and helps them wish to be apart of something. This is why this city is dying, lack of diversity.
Diversity needs to remain supreme. It is the only way we will move past where we are in this moment in time.
FINAL THOUGHTS
As it stands, Agrippa has three zeroes underneath their belt, despite comparable bloodloss on both sides. Both factions seem convinced that their reactions during this conflict have been both morally sound and proportionate. Both have long-standing histories and traditions backing up their beliefs. Whether this conflict continues now that one of the leaders of din Kolesi has been zeroed has yet to be seen. More updates will be added as this story unfolds.
UPDATE #1: JAN. 19
At the time of this writing, Agrippa has claimed another zero on the din Kolesi side. On Jan. 17, 2018, Narcisssa[7] was zeroed by Agrippa, with the final stake going to Anima. Agrippa has not changed their earlier tactics of attacking only those who landed vials on them after the end of The Void contract, leaving only Michiru and Kali left to be zeroed.
Michiru is down to 1013 BP with Kali sitting at 1947, both remaining Out of Shadows and swinging. Between them and Narcisssa, before she fell, they managed to bring Damacus down to 4012 pints and ophelia at 9666 pints. Though many other Agrippa have bled (with Lannair Cuan at the lead so far behind Agrippa leadership, losing 4718 total pints since the 8th), none are anywhere near zeroing range and Michiru has made sure that no new members of din Kolesi hop into the fight now that it is on its last leg.
UPDATE #2: JAN. 21
Late on January 19th, heading into the early morning of the 20th, both Michiru[8] and Kali [9] were zeroed by Agrippa. Kali's stake was taken by Reyna, her partner and a former member of Agrippa, who was not involved in the conflict, in much the same way that din Kolesi took the stakes of Daly and CrimsonClover. ophelia staked Michiru, and her body was collected by Michiru's childe, Erzsbet V. According to claims in Ab Antiquo's own "What Are You Thinking?" thread[10], Michiru attempted a few hits against Agrippa as they attacked her[11], though accidentally used inappropriate weapons such as stakes against high-BP vampires.
When asked about the possibility of any further attacks on the rest of the din Kolesi lineage, Damacus merely stated, "Do I seem like a person who would kill the wolves and then the cubs?" suggesting that with the final zeroing of the 6 original combatants, the conflict is (for now) laid to rest.
REFERENCES:
[1] Introducing: The Void
[2] Conflict Coverage: Damacus VS The Void
[3] Conflict Coverage: Damacus VS The Void UPDATE
[4] Many thanks to Lilou and Vex for compiling this list.
[5] While Pulse and Kali are not considered din Kolesi, they were attacked in concert with them and thus included, and according to Michiru: “They did hit [with] the dK side.”
[6] See Jan. 14-A correction.
[7] Narcisssa Obituary
[8] Michiru Obituary
[9] Kali Obituary
[10] What Are You Thinking? Page 78
[11] See Jan. 22 correction.
CORRECTIONS
Jan. 14 2018-A -- Josephine claimed the stake by Daly, not Michiru, as previously stated.
Jan. 14 2018-B -- Table reorganized to better distinguish between actual din Kolesi members and their allies. Michiru quote in [5] was clarified.
Jan 22. 2018 -- Changed wording of sentence to better reflect accuracy.