Nut Up November

[Alex Ayres]

Maybe everything isn't about you?

Those last two paragraphs, sir, were what I have issues with in the city myself. And while I believe you to be guilty of it, they weren't directly related to just you.

Also, I'm pretty disappointed reading that thread, that you can't figure out what it was that you did wrong and actually believe it has to do with the picture. I thought you were smarter than that.

But the biggest question is, why on earth do you even care so much.

It's funny because I knew your response was going to be "not everything is about you" and I thought about preempting it. But then you would have a different thing to say about it, so I just didn't say anything concerning whether it was about me or not. I also knew you'd state that it was "obvious" what Seyda had a problem with, and point to my intelligence, since you believe that I believe I'm smart.

This whole thing is incredibly tired, predictable, manipulation. I don't know if you're even aware you're doing it. But I will answer each thing, regardless.

1. You quoted me. It isn't weird for me to assume that what you were saying is about me. You didn't clearly delineate a point in which what you were saying was about me, and what you were saying wasn't. But even so, you're saying here that you believe I'm guilty of it, so my post still stands. It honestly looks to me that by quoting me and then having me respond and then replying with "Maybe everything isn't about you?" you were trying to bait me into responding so you could deliver that exact line. Just letting you know how it looks, I'm not assuming intent, here.

2. The order of events were: 1. Seyda shares video of her in a bush. 2. I post a picture of Nigel Thornberry, comparing one bush dwelling documentarian to another. 3. Annabelle warns me about talking about Seyda. 4. I tell her very clearly that I am not heading her warning 5. Annabelle UV grenades me. 2-5 happened within two days of each other, and I'm being generous because I don't have an exact memory of it, I would guess it was actually closer to within 16 hours of each other.

Why on earth would I assume that when Seyda says, a month or so after all of this happens, that I was hit for my sins, that Annabelle hit me for something that happened six years ago, and not something that happened less than two days before she hit me? I'm flattered that you think I'm smart, but unfortunately, I can't read peoples' minds. That's why I ask questions.

3. I don't know what you're referring ot when you say "why on earth do you even care so much". I care a lot about everything. I care a lot about you, Vex, Seyda, Lorrana, Narcisssa, Dahlia, Drew, Coldy, everyone in this city. Maybe the way I show it is weird to you, but hey, care and love are paradoxical things. They're both universal experiences, while being unique to anyone who feels them.

people won't just focus on a small aspect of what you've said that's actually irrelevant to the overall point you're making

This is literally what you do. Not only do you do this, you run rampant with it. The fuck?

I'll have the rest of this conversation for us, since we've had it so many times:

"Vex, I don't know what you mean, and I don't believe that I do that, let alone do it rampantly. Would you mind clarifying?"
"If you don't know what I mean, then you're dumber than I thought/not as smart as you think you are/any disparaging, snarky remark in which you don't clarify anything."
"Okay. Well, if you aren't going to clarify, I can't really do anything about it. So, have a lovely day, Vex."

You go away continuing to think whatever it is you think about me, I go away not knowing what you mean still.

If you ever want to break this cycle, let me know. Rather than hash it out in an Ab post, we could, for once ever, sit down, and discuss our differences, and maybe one or both of us will go away with a new found appreciation for the other's perspective. I have a suspicion I'm more likely to to appreciate yours than you are to appreciate mine, since I'm the less stubborn of the two of us (I'm just kidding).

If not, I'm happy to continue doing this for another 10 years. At this point I almost look forward to it.

[ladypeacek]

1. You quoted me.

2. Annabelle warns me about talking about Seyda. I tell her very clearly that I am not heading her warning

3. I don't know what you're referring ot when you say "why on earth do you even care so much". I care a lot about everything. I care a lot about you, Vex, Seyda, Lorrana, Narcisssa, Dahlia, Drew, Coldy, everyone in this city. Maybe the way I show it is weird to you, but hey, care and love are paradoxical things. They're both universal experiences, while being unique to anyone who feels them.

1 - I quoted you because I WAS talking to you in that particular response. Not everything is about you, when I said that. I can't help that you missed the line that says "My biggest issue here" in my first post, after I fussed at you for your nonsense. This is the point where I went on to discuss MY nutting up, what bothers me, what issues I have. HERE, as in RB. Not HERE, as in Alex World. Though, you definitely do this at times, this is a far bigger issue than JUST you. I further go on about the WAYT shit, because again, far bigger issue than JUST you. This part of my rant was all entirely general, sir, as others had piped up with their own opinions on this subject, so I followed suit. Again, not about YOU, specifically.

2 - Since you aren't as bright as I hoped, I removed everything except the ACTUAL shit that actually bothered us.

3 - You don't get to push yourself into peoples lives, business, and minds because you claim to care about them. Saying you care is not some VIP access to their lives. I asked why on earth you care, because this is the most adolescent behavior because someone didn't want to have a private conversation with you, which is their absolute right. You see all this nonsense? This is why no one wants to answer your calls, sir. IT. IS. EXHAUSTING. I want to know why you care so much about what she meant, that it results in absolutely icky reactions.


All I have left to say to you is...you are not OWED a damn thing. Not an explanation, not a kind word, not understanding, not information, nothing. You are owed absolutely nothing. The more you hammer and push and demand and whine, the very less likely you will EVER get it.

If you ACTUALLY cared, you would think beyond what YOU want, and consider the feelings and desires of how people WANT to be cared for, and maybe try that.

Now I'm tired. Respond or Don't. Insult some more. Stomp some more. Try to look like the noble man you have never known how to be. Whatever, dude. Exhuasted.

[Alex Ayres]

All I have left to say to you is...you are not OWED a damn thing.

I’m going to be very clear about this. Seyda does not owe you anything, least of all an answer to your ridiculous question.

I'm also going to be very clear about this. I agree, Seyda doesn't owe me anything.

It's probably exhausting for you because you're saying things that I already agreed with and/or addressed. And I should say that it's not just Seyda that doesn't owe me anything. No one owes me anything. I also don't owe anyone anything. My papers are orderly. I never spent a cent that wasn't mine.

Again, it doesn't actually seem like you're reading anything I've said beyond "Seyda did this thing", and you're upset that I used something Seyda did as an example so you're just throwing feces against the wall hoping something sticks.

It seems you aren't capable of reconciling the difference between someone expressing their opinion on behavior they believe to be an issue, and whatever it is you keep saying I'm doing (insulting, stomping, trying to look noble?).

It's possible to find certain actions and behavior a problem, and not think the people doing those things are bad or defined by those actions and behavior. You can separate the person from the idea, the action, the opinion, or the behavior.

[ladypeacek]

All I have left to say to you is...you are not OWED a damn thing.

I’m going to be very clear about this. Seyda does not owe you anything, least of all an answer to your ridiculous question.

I'm also going to be very clear about this. I agree, Seyda doesn't owe me anything.

It's probably exhausting for you because you're saying things that I already agreed with and/or addressed. And I should say that it's not just Seyda that doesn't owe me anything. No one owes me anything. I also don't owe anyone anything. My papers are orderly. I never spent a cent that wasn't mine.

Again, it doesn't actually seem like you're reading anything I've said beyond "Seyda did this thing", and you're upset that I used something Seyda did as an example so you're just throwing feces against the wall hoping something sticks.

It seems you aren't capable of reconciling the difference between someone expressing their opinion on behavior they believe to be an issue, and whatever it is you keep saying I'm doing (insulting, stomping, trying to look noble?).

It's possible to find certain actions and behavior a problem, and not think the people doing those things are bad or defined by those actions and behavior. You can separate the person from the idea, the action, the opinion, or the behavior.

To clarify, it wasn't specifically the example with Seyda that I took issue with. It's EVERY instance you do this, which is a lot. It's why we went from close to...this. It's why I, me, Pea, get frustrated with you. Every single topic, every piece of information, every choice someone makes, every opinion someone has, you have to turn into this exhausting dialogue until you get the response you want. That is the issue I have, and as you made your point using Seyda as an example, I followed suit.

[Alex Ayres]

To clarify, it wasn't specifically the example with Seyda that I took issue with. It's EVERY instance you do this, which is a lot. It's why we went from close to...this. It's why I, me, Pea, get frustrated with you. Every single topic, every piece of information, every choice someone makes, every opinion someone has, you have to turn into this exhausting dialogue until you get the response you want. That is the issue I have, and as you made your point using Seyda as an example, I followed suit.

Interesting. If you ever want to know why I think we went from close to this, we can discuss that privately. I have a different memory of why that's the case.

There are a lot of topics, pieces of information, choices, and opinions, I don't have a problem with, and I don't ever get the response I "want". I actually can't get a response that I "want" because I don't go into it wanting a specific response.

The only topics, pieces of information, choices, and opinions, that I have a problem with, are the ones that I think are pushing this city closer to the proverbial cliff to fall to its not-proverbial extinction.

You can't even say that I make a comment on every piece of information, choice, or opinion that I disagree with, because if that was a case, there would be a comment on every single zeroing thread.

I only speak about the things that I think are actively harming this city and its ability to thrive. You don't have to agree with my assessment. You don't owe me that, or anything.


Just as you use vials to express your distaste for when someone uses a piece of information, their choices, their opinions in a way you don't agree with, I use words.

I have found that in world history both methods have worked.

[Everly]

Anyways, I really fucking hate Christmas people. Why is that your entire personality for two months? Get a life.

[Brom]

Anyways, I really fucking hate Christmas people. Why is that your entire personality for two months? Get a life.

Merry Christmachanukwanzadan!

[Narcisssa]

Anyways, I really fucking hate Christmas people. Why is that your entire personality for two months? Get a life.

I fully agree.

[Alex Ayres]

Anyways, I really fucking hate Christmas people. Why is that your entire personality for two months? Get a life.

ETA: The more I look at this the creepier it is.